Guest Host – Lisa Von Geldern, Guests – Terra Radliff, Dr. Rima Laibow, Rep. Rachel Keshel, Dru Heaton

Understanding Agenda 2030 and Its Local Implementation

With Kathleen away, guest host Lisa von Geldern from the John Birch Society welcomes Tara Radliff from the Pima County Libertarian Party to discuss concerning legislation and the advancement of United Nations Agenda 2030 at both local and state levels.

One of the most concerning issues for freedom advocates is a bill that has stalled in the Arizona legislature: HCR 2035, known as the "Freedom to Move" bill. This constitutional amendment would prohibit taxes or fees based on vehicle miles traveled and ban the monitoring or limiting of vehicle travel without consent. The bill would apply to both gas-powered and electric vehicles.

"It will limit people from moving because some people won't be able to afford it," Tara explains. "I think it's important to educate people on this because it's happening here in Tucson and Pima County. This Agenda 2030 is being implemented right under our noses."

Looking to international examples provides a sobering preview of what could come to the United States. In Great Britain, Ultra Low Emission Zones (ULEZ) employ license plate cameras to monitor drivers and charge fees for driving into restricted areas like city centers. The pushback from citizens has been tremendous, with many destroying the expensive monitoring equipment and refusing to pay fines.

"In the UK, they had thousands of people refusing to pay these fines because it's not only surveillance—they were going to fine them if they went through certain areas because of carbon taxes," Tara notes. "Mayor Boris Johnson introduced the zone to come into operation in 2020, and it was implemented early in 2019."

Local Implementation of Smart Cities and Surveillance Infrastructure

Agenda 2030 is already being implemented in Tucson and Pima County through various initiatives. The City of Tucson has adopted "Plan Tucson," while Pima County has enacted "Pima Prospers," both of which incorporate numerous Agenda 2030 elements.

"The mayor has come out and said that she wants Tucson to be a 15-minute smart city," Tara reveals. "They've already built in a lot of infrastructure—the new street lights, all of the mini cell towers going up, the wiring that's happening."

A 15-minute city is designed so residents can live, work, and access all necessary services within a 15-minute walk, bike ride, or bus trip from their home. While this may sound convenient for some, the concerning aspect is the potential restriction on movement beyond one's designated zone.

"You will eventually be limited in your ability to leave your 15-minute city," Lisa warns. "And that's what the infrastructure is for."

The "smart city" concept goes beyond just convenient urban planning—it involves comprehensive surveillance and control. "Smart city is regulated by technology. They track everywhere you go," Tara explains. "In Oxford, they had a limit of how many miles you could drive. If you were over that many miles, they would fine you."

More concerning is the ability to remotely disable vehicles, especially electric ones, through geo-fencing technology. "Someone accidentally found out they have a geo-fencing program in their car so it can be shut down if it needs to be," Tara shares. "They can shut down your money because everything's going digital. They can shut down every form of electronic means you have to survive."

Water and Resource Control

Another aspect of Agenda 2030 being implemented locally is water resource control. The Tucson City Council has approved plans to build a "toilet to tap" water plant—a system that recycles wastewater for drinking.

"It's all about conservation. We have to conserve water, but it's about controlling the water," Tara explains. "I'm not 100% against recycling water if it's gray water used on sports fields or non-edible plants. But in this particular instance, they literally want to take all the water that goes down your toilet, down your sinks, clean it, and then recycle it for drinking."

Lisa raises concerns about pharmaceuticals, illicit drugs, and other chemicals that enter the wastewater system: "How are we going to ensure that things like people who are using fentanyl or heroin, their waste isn't coming back out of my tap?"

Tara agrees this is problematic: "I have a really hard time believing they can remove all these chemicals 100% from the water to make it safe to drink. I think we should be given an option to opt out."

Another concerning trend is the shift away from home ownership—another Agenda 2030 goal. "Around where I live, there's an entire housing community that is being built to rent," Tara notes. New houses are increasingly being built as "smart houses" that can track, trace, and control the occupants.

"Tucson Electric Power actually tried doing the remote controlling of people's thermostats who had smart thermostats," Tara adds. "Everyone's getting 'free' smart thermostats. I wonder why? That's the purpose of building these smart homes—so everything can be controlled and monitored."

Constitutional Concerns and Nullification

Lisa shifts the discussion to broader constitutional issues, particularly nullification and an Article V convention. She expresses concern about the push for an Article V convention, which she believes would lead to a constitutional crisis.

"An Article V convention will lead to a constitutional crisis because basically we will have a convention that Congress runs," Lisa explains. "No matter what Mark Mechler and Convention of States says, no matter what US Term Limits says, you cannot control a convention."

She points to historical precedent: "That was what was done at the original constitutional convention back in 1787. They threw out the Articles of Confederation and wrote a whole new constitution."

Lisa and Tara emphasize the importance of nullification—the principle that states, counties, and cities have the right to reject unconstitutional federal laws. "Nullification is when the federal government says marijuana is not legal to use, but California, Arizona, New Mexico say, 'Whatever, we're going to allow pot stores,'" Lisa explains.

"When the federal government gives us some kind of law on guns that they want us to enact, and Doug Ducey did nullify unconstitutional federal gun laws—God bless him for that," she adds.

State Sovereignty and American Exceptionalism

Lisa emphasizes the unique nature of the United States Constitution and the concept of American exceptionalism: "The United States Constitution is the only governmental organizing principle in the world that acknowledges our rights come from a higher power, come from God. You can be a deist and call it nature's God. You can be a Christian and call it Jesus Christ. But our rights come from God, not from a piece of paper and not from another man."

This understanding is crucial to preserving freedom: "We are a sovereign people, and we need to jealously guard our rights from those who would take them."

The John Birch Society offers educational resources on these topics, including "The Constitution is the Solution" course and sessions on nullification.

Photo Radar Enforcement and Other Legislation

Tara brings up a bill advancing in the Arizona legislature to ban photo radar enforcement statewide. "Tucson voted down the photo radar cameras back in 2015. Overwhelmingly, Arizona residents have continually said that they do not want this."

The speakers emphasize the importance of citizen engagement with the legislative process. Lisa encourages people to register on the Request to Speak (RTS) system to provide feedback on legislation and to contact legislators directly.

"If you really want your legislators to hear your voice, you need to literally write a letter and drop it in the mail or pick up the phone and call them," Lisa advises. "When they're back in their home offices, you need to make an appointment and meet with them."

Drew Heaton: Libertarian Party Perspective

Drew Heaton, chair of both the Pima County Libertarian Party and the Arizona State Libertarian Party, calls in to add her perspective. She makes a pitch for the Libertarian Party while acknowledging that people should follow their convictions regarding party affiliation.

"The reason why people register and are active within the Libertarian Party is because we're willing to call both sides," Drew explains. "For people who are independent or ready to call out both sides, be the umpire so to speak, join me in the Libertarian Party."

Drew emphasizes that her approach isn't about pressuring people: "Go where you feel like you're called because some people are called to be in one party or the other. If you believe that you are sent there, planted there in order to work with those relationships in the Republican party, then by all means do so."

As a Christian and pro-life libertarian, Drew explains her position: "I am libertarian because I am Christian and pro-life. The main thing that I have a problem with my brothers and sisters on the right is that they're selective and say, 'Well, these lives matter, but these lives don't matter.' We are also uniquely anti-war."

Drew concludes by emphasizing the Libertarian focus on freedom: "We make freedom our single issue and we work with anyone who wants to make freedom their single issue."

Dr. Rima Laibow: United Nations Concerns and Global Control

Dr. Rima Laibow, founder of the Natural Solutions Foundation, joins the conversation to discuss concerns about executive orders related to the United Nations and the World Health Organization. She expresses skepticism about President Trump's executive order to withdraw from the WHO.

"His executive order to get out of the WHO is, in essence, a replay of what he did when he was in office before, which was direct the Secretary of State to write a letter withdrawing from the World Health Organization," Dr. Laibow explains. "The World Health Organization, like the United Nations, can be withdrawn from by any country which has the head of state write a letter withdrawing the country."

However, she believes the approach is flawed: "He had the Secretary of State Pompeo during his first term in office and Rubio now write that letter, which is about as effective as if my grandmother wrote the letter. It is flimflam."

Dr. Laibow contends that the executive order from February 4th, examining the U.S. relationship with international organizations including the U.N., might be "another political trick."

Rachel Jones Keshel: State Legislative Perspective

Arizona State Representative Rachel Jones Keshel joins the conversation to discuss the importance of state sovereignty and effective ways for citizens to communicate with legislators.

"We as a state have a right to our own sovereignty from the federal government," Representative Keshel explains. "If there are things that the federal government is doing, the state has a right to protect their citizens at a state level."

When asked about the most effective ways for constituents to reach legislators, she emphasizes direct contact: "I always prefer people to come to me. I give my cell phone number out. You can call my office, email me, contact me through social media."

Regarding mass communication campaigns, she acknowledges their value but emphasizes the power of phone calls: "If there's a bill coming down the pipeline that you are just adamantly opposed to, I know and I've seen it in action when a legislator's assistant starts to get phone call after phone call. The phone's ringing off the hook. The pressure does work."

Representative Keshel mentions her work on Agenda 2030 legislation in the previous session: "We had a bill that was vetoed last session. Prayerfully, we can get a Republican into the governor's office, and then we can get really serious about getting that passed."

Since Arizona has a part-time legislature with a swift timeline, the deadline for introducing new legislation has already passed for the current session. Representative Keshel suggests focusing on federal officials for immediate concerns while preparing to reintroduce state legislation in the next session.

Dr. Laibow: Preventgenocide2030.org and Call to Action

Dr. Laibow explains her background and current work: "I am a physician graduated from the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in 1970. I have practiced both psychiatry and medicine without ever using a pharmaceutical for 55 years."

In 2004, she and her husband created the Natural Solutions Foundation "specifically to derail the globalist agenda" after reading public documents that revealed plans for world government and population reduction.

"The globalists were waiting until they had the technology necessary to close the net. And they're just about to do that," Dr. Laibow warns.

Her website, preventgenocide2030.org, provides information and action items "that allow you to raise your voice and tell the people who have decision-making power what you want them to do."

Dr. Laibow emphasizes the importance of collective action: "When one or two people tell politicians what they want, it's inaudible. But when millions of people tell politicians what they demand, it shapes what the politicians do."

She discusses the "Save Our Ostriches" campaign, which aims to protect 400 healthy research ostriches in British Columbia that the Canadian Food Inspection Agency plans to kill. These ostriches are part of international research on antibodies produced in their eggs that could provide alternatives to vaccines.

"The Canadian government is acting absolutely illegally in this determined effort to stamp out animals that might provide an alternative to the vaccination narrative and to wipe out animals in general," Dr. Laibow contends.

She connects this to broader concerns about the "One Health" initiative, which she describes as "the totalitarian control of everything," and claims the World Health Organization plans to require everyone to receive "500 novel vaccines that will be built on the mRNA platform" by 2030.

Closing Thoughts

Lisa encourages listeners to research these issues themselves and engage with local government: "You need to be going to your board of supervisors meetings, and you need to be paying attention. This is on you to protect yourselves and protect your loved ones and to educate yourself."

Dr. Laibow concludes with a call to action: "The single most toxic thing that the globalists have ever done is to convince us that we're powerless. When the reality is exactly the opposite. You are the single most powerful force, just as you are the single best judge of your own health and well-being. And if you take your power in your own hands, we can accomplish what freedom advocates are talking about."