Guests - Scott Miller, Katey McPherson, Betsy Smith

The COVID Crisis: Scott Miller's Journey From Pediatric Practitioner to "The Most Dangerous Man in Washington"

Scott Miller, author of "The Most Dangerous Man in Washington," joined Winn Tucson to share his extraordinary journey during the COVID-19 pandemic. As a pediatric practitioner in Washington state who operated his own medical practice, Miller found himself labeled "dangerous" for attempting to help patients when few others would.

Standing Against Medical Tyranny

Miller's troubles began when he treated COVID-19 patients using breathing treatments and alternative protocols when conventional medicine was failing. Word spread quickly, and soon he became known as the only provider in his area willing to help. For his efforts, Miller faced severe consequences.

"I had my license temporarily suspended because they deemed that what I was doing was encouraging the spread of the disease in such a reckless fashion that I was considered substantively evil to my community," Miller explained. "They claimed I was using my license and title to deceive the public."

After a five-day hearing, authorities did not issue a permanent suspension, but they imposed nearly impossible conditions: Miller would have to pay $30,000 for their investigation costs and undergo a voluntary inpatient neuropsychiatric evaluation at a facility directly affiliated with the Washington Medical Commission. Recognizing the trap, Miller refused.

Learning Hard Truths About Hospital Protocols

Miller quickly discovered that standard hospital protocols were often deadly for COVID patients. "I didn't know what the hospital protocols were. I didn't know they were withholding care. I didn't know that there were HHS payouts for them to use remdesivir and withhold antibiotics," Miller shared.

When Miller initially sent community members who reached out for help to hospitals, all four died. This devastating pattern made him realize that COVID patients were often better off avoiding hospitals altogether. He recalled encountering a church congregation discussing the death of a 42-year-old man who had gone to the hospital and died two weeks later, leaving behind a wife and two young children.

"That should be a scandal of national news," Miller emphasized. "Except it was happening every two minutes, every day in every hospital in the country."

The Hospital Escape Mission

As Miller became aware of the dangers within hospital settings, he embarked on a mission to help patients escape. "I made it a mission to get as many people out of the hospitals as I could," he said. "We were able to get a few hundred people out of the ICU, sometimes without the hospital knowing how, and other times by negotiating with the doctor to change the plan of care."

This extraordinary effort revealed the extreme circumstances many Americans faced, where the supposed centers of healing had become places to avoid. In one remarkable case, Miller even helped a father provide medication to his six-year-old daughter who was being held in a Tucson hospital emergency room with an influenza diagnosis, but not being treated or released.

"We had to sneak medicine into a patient at the hospital because they wouldn't do it," Miller explained. "If that doesn't tell you that this was a death sentence on so many Americans..."

The Orchestrated Attack on Medical Freedom

Miller described a masterful public manipulation campaign during the pandemic: "First it's shelter in place and you're a hero. You're not doing it for you; you're doing it for humanity. Then it's wear a mask, and you're not doing it for you; you're doing it for humanity. Then it's get the injection, and you're not doing it for you; you're doing it for humanity."

After speaking at a freedom rally in May 2020 about the negative impacts he was seeing on children, especially those with special needs who had lost essential services, Miller became a target. Despite his wife's valid concerns about jeopardizing their practice, Miller felt compelled to speak out. The next morning, two women showed up at his door offering him a ride to Olympia, which Miller took as divine guidance.

"It was so impactful from a spiritual level, not just spiritual, but just like a connection level with God," Miller reflected.

That single event triggered the first of many complaints against him. After a school board speech that went viral, Miller faced an onslaught of coordinated attacks. "As a provider, if you get one or two complaints in your career, it'd be an 'oh shoot.' And I was getting batches of 15 complaints, 13 complaints at a time, and they weren't from patients," Miller revealed. "They were from people in the community that were actually getting paid to search out things I was writing and saying."

Miller's story represents the experiences of countless medical professionals who chose to prioritize patient care over protocol during one of the most challenging periods in modern medical history.

Law Enforcement Challenges: Insights from National Police Association Spokesperson Betsy Smith

Pima County Sheriff's Department Controversy

The conversation shifted to local law enforcement issues with Betsy Smith, spokesperson for the National Police Association. Smith addressed the troubling situation involving Lieutenant Heather Lappin, a respected officer in the Pima County Sheriff's Department, who has filed a notice of claim against Sheriff Chris Nanos.

Sheriff Nanos placed Lappin on administrative leave in October, claiming she conspired with a local reporter to coordinate paid interviews with inmates and alleging she knew the union president campaigned in a deputy's uniform. Smith emphasized that these claims have proven false, with video evidence showing the officers were not in uniform during the alleged protest.

"Lieutenant Lappin is seeking $2 million to settle this claim," Smith explained. "Whether she won sheriff or not, she's in an upward trajectory in this organization. And the organization has invested a lot in her. She's invested a lot in the organization."

Smith highlighted Lappin's impeccable 19-year career with only one complaint that was dismissed, contrasting with five or six complaints in the past six months alone. "If this is not a targeted bullying effort... What he's doing is lawfare and it's abuse of power and it's unconstitutional."

Smith pointed out how this pattern extends beyond Lappin to include Sergeant Aaron Cross, another well-respected officer who supported Lappin and is now facing termination. "He couldn't manage and balance his budget," Smith said of Nanos. "He's using his staff, and shame on the other people there. No one in his leadership team is standing up. They're patting him on the back and encouraging him to continue to do this."

This situation isn't isolated, according to Smith, who referenced the ongoing litigation involving "Deputy Jane" and urged listeners to visit justicefordeputyjane.com to learn about alleged scandals and coverups in the Nanos administration.

New Protection for Children: SB 1437

The discussion turned to a significant new law in Arizona when Katie McPherson joined the conversation. Senate Bill 1437, recently signed by Governor Katie Hobbs, enhances protection for children by expanding mandatory reporting requirements and improving the investigative process for sexual abuse in schools.

"We broadened the mandatory reporting cohort to add substitute teachers, governing board members, and charter school governing board members," McPherson explained. "And the investigative process, if a student comes forward and says, 'Some sort of sexual harassment abuse has happened to me,' instead of administrators doing their own investigation and then telling police, they need to go straight to a law enforcement agency that is not at the school itself."

The bill received strong support from Maricopa County Attorney Rachel Mitchell, who emphasized that telling one's boss or HR department does not fulfill mandatory reporting requirements. Parents' reluctance to press charges also does not relieve mandatory reporters of their legal obligations.

Smith brought her expertise as a former child sex crimes investigator to the conversation, noting: "The schools don't want anything bad to happen in their schools. So if you don't report it, if you don't acknowledge it, if you try and handle it internally, then nothing bad, quote unquote, is happening in your school."

Smith emphasized that children's safety must always come first, and schools need to be more transparent in these cases. She advocated for additional training for school resource officers in identifying and investigating child sexual abuse.

McPherson highlighted the importance of recognizing more subtle forms of misconduct: "What I'm seeing is grooming and luring and the very insidious, cryptic, not penetrating genitalia, not touching breasts, but this very covert overluring and grooming that veterans, superintendents, and administrators are staring at me like, 'This isn't a crime. Like, that's not a thing.'"

Both Smith and McPherson expressed hope that Arizona might follow Illinois in adopting "Faith's Law," which expanded the criminal definition of grooming beyond electronic communications to include written communications, in-person acts, and even conduct through third parties.

Department of Homeland Security's New Approach to Migration

The conversation then addressed immigration enforcement, as Smith explained a significant development from the Department of Homeland Security. Nearly 950,000 migrants who received parole under the Biden-era CBP One app have been ordered to self-deport immediately.

Smith described how the CBP One app has been transformed from a tool that facilitated illegal immigration to one that can now help manage departures: "What Tom Holman and Kristi Noem are now using it for is to allow the people who are on there—it's called parole, not like parole out of prison, but parole in the United States as an illegal alien—it's allowing these people, and very importantly, it's notifying them not just that they need to leave the country, but it's giving them a pathway to move throughout the country and to legally get back to their home country."

This approach offers a crucial incentive—those who self-deport can potentially return legally through proper channels, while those who ignore the order and are later caught "can never come back."

Smith explained how the Biden administration created this situation: "These people were invited to come to the United States to break our laws. And then they were told, 'Okay, we're going to get you into the country. You got a court date in 2029. And in the meantime, you get Medicaid and you get food stamps and you get housing.'"

She detailed the process by which illegal immigrants received benefits: "Once that asylum application goes in, then you can file another form, a 765, to get work authorization. Then they automatically—this is what the Biden administration did—automatically sent you a Social Security card in the mail. No interview, no paperwork, no discussion."

The result, according to Smith, is that "1.3 million illegal immigrants are now on Medicaid," creating an unsustainable strain on American resources.

Tucson City Council Issues: Bus Fares and Water Rates

The discussion concluded with local Tucson issues, focusing on the City Council's pending vote on whether to end free bus fares. Tucson's public transit system has been fare-free since March 2020, a policy currently set to continue through summer 2025.

Smith addressed the downside of free transportation: "Free public transportation is leading to drug use, is leading to abuses." She shared how her daughter visited Tucson and recounted that U of A students avoided using the streetcar because it was "full of scary, high, and drunk homeless people that would try and grope us."

While acknowledging that some people genuinely need assistance with transportation costs, Smith suggested a more targeted approach: "People should have to apply and show their income and say, 'I can't afford to take the bus.'" She also noted that public transportation could become a revenue source for the city while still offering assistance to those truly in need.

The Tucson Crime Free Coalition has documented extensive drug use occurring not just on buses but at bus stops as well. Smith and Winn encouraged listeners to attend the City Council meeting that evening to voice their opinions on both the bus fare issue and a proposed water rate increase for county customers.

"The city will vote on a notice of intent to raise water rates on customers who live in unincorporated Pima County," Winn explained, noting that a state judge had previously thrown out a water rate increase in 2023 because it wasn't supported by hard data.